Ed Jay wrote:

>> The ****ing losers in here have no idea.
>
> Why are you here?

See above.

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lostonline wrote:

> I think I need to clarify, my main interest is to earn enough(i.e. through
> googleadsense, affilate programs, etc) to support the site right
> now.(i.e. hosting cost $10 a month) and how to get enough traffic. My url
> isn't even indexed by google yet.

With compelling content, posting ads may earn that much. I can't say. I
never tried ads.

> Other than word of mouth what other ways are good?

I'm the wrong person to ask. Word of mouth got me jobs, but not enough
to pay the bills. There are others here who have enough work to keep
them busy even without having to drum up business for themselves. It can
work, but you have to be good at what you do.

On Feb 6, 3:25 pm, "lostonline" <csjc2...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I'm currently building/designing my first "real(with a actual domain)"
> website and I was wondering what is the best option for creating revenue.

get a 9 to 5

"lostonline" <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote in message
news:F78yh.59308$EMAIL REMOVED et...
> I'm currently building/designing my first "real(with a actual domain)"
> website and I was wondering what is the best option for creating revenue.
> It is a computing/computer related webpage and I was wondering if selling
> content or advertising with free content is the best way or any other
> methods. I appreciate any advice and I will post the url upon completion
> for critique if that is allowed. Thanks in advance.
>

A couple of thoughts regarding the above and some of the replies:

First, the internet is not really a case of "What site/content can I put up
on the internet to make a few bucks?" If it was a case where anybody could
just whip up a website with little thought behind it and make money off it,
then everybody would be doing that.

If you do a portfolio site the objective of that site should be to make you
money by landing you some web development jobs, not via ad revenue. People
aren't going to come to your site looking for a web developer and then be
thinking "Hmm... I am looking for a web developer and I don't want to hire
this guy, but I do want to buy a book from Amazon, I think I will click on
his ad!"

The other thing with web developer portfolios on the internet is that they
don't really work where you can just whip up a portfolio, index it in google
and then sit back and wait for a job to come in. If thats your main plan
for making web development sales you would probably have to be very very
lucky to get even 1 job a year.

Where you say you want a site that will cover its own costs, IE: $10 a
month: I know what you are saying and what your intention is here, but no
good business ever starts up with the model of "I hope I can cover my
mediocre expenses each month". Here is the main problem with this plan: If
you set up something with the goal of it making $10 a month and it
"succeeds", isn't that a total waste of your time?

Instead you should be aiming higher... much higher. Yes, this does mean
that the site might end up losing money for the first little while, but at
least that way if it is successful you can make some real money from it.
For my own web business I spent more than $40,000 and a year of my time to
get it going.

And finally I would say: If you need an idea, you can't just go fishing for
one. If somebody had an internet business idea that required little to no
time or money and would start turning a profit within a month they are not
just going to give it out to some guy who asks on a public forum, they would
instead do it themselves.


Its great that you want to get in to an internet business, but the important
thing to remember here is that you have to think of it like any other "real"
business and all the age old "rules of business" still apply even if your
business is virtual, like: "it takes money to make money", "it pays to
advertise", "know your product/service", "you need a business plan", "know
your field and know your customers", "expect to make nothing in the first
year of business (if you do make something thats great! but you need to plan
and expect as if you won't)"

"lostonline" <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote in message
news:F78yh.59308$EMAIL REMOVED et...
> I'm currently building/designing my first "real(with a actual domain)"
> website and I was wondering what is the best option for creating revenue.
> It is a computing/computer related webpage and I was wondering if selling
> content or advertising with free content is the best way or any other
> methods. I appreciate any advice and I will post the url upon completion
> for critique if that is allowed. Thanks in advance.

This is a second reply to your post. The first reply was more on the angle
of "setting up a web business" and this one is more geared towards a smaller
site.

If you are going to set up a website and then try to make a few bucks off it
through advertising or selling content then the things you have to look at
are:

Whats the content of your site?
Where does your site's content come from?
What are your visitors going to be interested in?

IE: if you are doing a website about reviews of computer games then your ads
on your site should be geared towards the computer games themselves, not
something like "vacation packages to wine country at a cozy bed and
breakfast". Likewise, any content you buy or sell should be related to the
main focus of your site.

On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:20:17 GMT, "Auggie" <EMAIL REMOVED>
wrote:

>
>"lostonline" <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote in message
>news:F78yh.59308$EMAIL REMOVED. net...
>> I'm currently building/designing my first "real(with a actual domain)"
>> website and I was wondering what is the best option for creating revenue.
>> It is a computing/computer related webpage and I was wondering if selling
>> content or advertising with free content is the best way or any other
>> methods. I appreciate any advice and I will post the url upon completion
>> for critique if that is allowed. Thanks in advance.
>>
>
>A couple of thoughts regarding the above and some of the replies:
>
>First, the internet is not really a case of "What site/content can I put up
>on the internet to make a few bucks?" If it was a case where anybody could
>just whip up a website with little thought behind it and make money off it,
>then everybody would be doing that.

Er....Yes and they do seem to be!


>
>If you do a portfolio site the objective of that site should be to make you
>money by landing you some web development jobs, not via ad revenue. People
>aren't going to come to your site looking for a web developer and then be
>thinking "Hmm... I am looking for a web developer and I don't want to hire
>this guy, but I do want to buy a book from Amazon, I think I will click on
>his ad!"

Indeed. If a site is selling something, it should not carry any other
adverts. Adverts are only acceptable on information sites (like
IMDB.COM) and sites offering something for nothing (like simtel.net)

>
>Where you say you want a site that will cover its own costs, IE: $10 a
>month: I know what you are saying and what your intention is here, but no
>good business ever starts up with the model of "I hope I can cover my
>mediocre expenses each month". Here is the main problem with this plan: If
>you set up something with the goal of it making $10 a month and it
>"succeeds", isn't that a total waste of your time?

Agreed.

>
>Instead you should be aiming higher... much higher. Yes, this does mean
>that the site might end up losing money for the first little while, but at
>least that way if it is successful you can make some real money from it.
>For my own web business I spent more than $40,000 and a year of my time to
>get it going.


Many small businesses fail, spending a lot of money can lead to
bankruptcy. Not that I disagree with your sentiment, I just wish to
err a note of caution over spending a large amount of money initially.


Matt

Auggie wrote:

> First, the internet is not really a case of "What site/content can I
> put up on the internet to make a few bucks?" If it was a case where
> anybody could just whip up a website with little thought behind it and
> make money off it, then everybody would be doing that.

I thought "everyone" (for values of "everyone" inclulding "millions" and
millions who shouldn't" <g>) had that impression and *were* trying to do
just that. For a few weeks, anyway.


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