Commentator wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Commentator wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> Commentator wrote:
>>>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>> Commentator wrote:
>>>>>>> Running a hosted site on Netfirms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This php script
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <?php
>>>>>>> $fp = fsockopen("pop.XXXXXXXX.ca", 110, $errno, $errstr, 3);
>>>>>>> if (!$fp) {
>>>>>>> echo "$errstr ($errno)<br />\n";
>>>>>>> } else {
>>>>>>> echo "Connected ok <br />\n";
>>>>>>> fclose($fp);
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> returns
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warning: fsockopen() [function.fsockopen]: unable to connect to
>>>>>>> pop.XXXXXXXX.ca:110 in
>>>>>>> mnt....................../www/XXXXXXXX.ca/forums/testsocket.php
>>>>>>> on line 2 Permission denied (13)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using M2F with phpBB, cannot connect to the pop server. Everything
>>>>>>> else installed and works fine. M2F uses the pear
>>>>>>> packages for pop connections. I have tried changing the
>>>>>>> configuration from php 4 to php 5 and that made no difference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do have the ability for a custom php.ini file. Would putting
>>>>>>> something in it resolve this connection error?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you should try a php newsgroup?
>>>>> I have as well. It was suggested to me I try here too. I have no
>>>>> idea if this is really a PHP issue, or the way the server is
>>>>> configured.
>>>> Either way, a php newsgroup is a better place.
>>>>
>>>> And when posting to multiple newsgroups, you should cross-post, not
>>>> multi-post.
>>> Any other non-helpful comments before you finish?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Just that if that's going to be your attitude, **** off, slime.
>
> Exactly why I don't cross post. There is always someone who is more
> interested in telling you how to post rather than offering anything even
> remotely useful. Not surprisingly, this is exactly the response I expected
> from you.
>
>
>

You did get helpful suggestions - to try the right newsgroups for your
questions. And cross-posting is the appropriate way to go.

But you're either too stupid to understand that, or too self-centered to
realize that usenet isn't your own private playground.

Had you taken the advice to cross-post in the appropriate newsgroups,
you wouldn't have gotten anything. But like most self-centered ***holes
you never believe your actions are wrong. It's always got to be someone
else.

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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Commentator wrote:
>
>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>>> And when posting to multiple newsgroups, you should cross-post,
>>> not multi-post.
>> Any other non-helpful comments before you finish?
>
> That *was* helpful. It was helpful to the people you seem to be
> dependent on for help. Do the math. And if you still want to piss
> them off so they won't feel like helping you, continue on in your
> present vein.

....in which case, it would be (in) *vain*.

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Commentator wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> Commentator wrote:
>>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>> Commentator wrote:
>>>>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>> Commentator wrote:
>>>>>>>> Running a hosted site on Netfirms.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This php script
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <?php
>>>>>>>> $fp = fsockopen("pop.XXXXXXXX.ca", 110, $errno, $errstr, 3);
>>>>>>>> if (!$fp) {
>>>>>>>> echo "$errstr ($errno)<br />\n";
>>>>>>>> } else {
>>>>>>>> echo "Connected ok <br />\n";
>>>>>>>> fclose($fp);
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> returns
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warning: fsockopen() [function.fsockopen]: unable to connect to
>>>>>>>> pop.XXXXXXXX.ca:110 in
>>>>>>>> mnt....................../www/XXXXXXXX.ca/forums/testsocket.php
>>>>>>>> on line 2 Permission denied (13)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Using M2F with phpBB, cannot connect to the pop server.
>>>>>>>> Everything else installed and works fine. M2F uses the pear
>>>>>>>> packages for pop connections. I have tried changing the
>>>>>>>> configuration from php 4 to php 5 and that made no difference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do have the ability for a custom php.ini file. Would putting
>>>>>>>> something in it resolve this connection error?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe you should try a php newsgroup?
>>>>>> I have as well. It was suggested to me I try here too. I have
>>>>>> no idea if this is really a PHP issue, or the way the server is
>>>>>> configured.
>>>>> Either way, a php newsgroup is a better place.
>>>>>
>>>>> And when posting to multiple newsgroups, you should cross-post,
>>>>> not multi-post.
>>>> Any other non-helpful comments before you finish?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Just that if that's going to be your attitude, **** off, slime.
>>
>> Exactly why I don't cross post. There is always someone who is more
>> interested in telling you how to post rather than offering anything
>> even remotely useful. Not surprisingly, this is exactly the
>> response I expected from you.
>>
>>
>>
>
> You did get helpful suggestions - to try the right newsgroups for your
> questions. And cross-posting is the appropriate way to go.
>
> But you're either too stupid to understand that, or too self-centered
> to realize that usenet isn't your own private playground.
>
> Had you taken the advice to cross-post in the appropriate newsgroups,
> you wouldn't have gotten anything. But like most self-centered
> ***holes you never believe your actions are wrong. It's always got
> to be someone else.

Let me be perfectly clear.

I am well conversant with Usenet convention. I am also well conversant with
the fact that every newsgroup seems to have those who are more interested in
complaining about posts rather than answering the questions contained
therein. When you run into such people, threads get taken way off course
and the underlying questions never get answered. Just like here.

This is why I do not cross post. Not to mention the fact that, if you took
the time to actually comprehend what you read, you would have deduced that
my post here was made *after* my posts / enquiries elsewhere. Unlike you, I
do not have some auto-magical power to retroactively add a group to an
earlier post.

Since I have posted my question elsewhere, including to my hosting company,
and not run into this same level of childishness, I expect I will get an
answer from one of those sources (having already received several helpful
suggestions). As already stated, I posted here only on the suggestion of
someone trying to be helpful. Looks like I should not have, given the
snippy, holier-than-thou attitude I have run into.

Neither of your responses addressed the question.

Nonetheless, I answered the first response politely, explaining that I had
posed the question elsewhere. The second response I received was nothing
more than a "**** off and go away, I don't like your post" which was fired
off to the group without any attempt to comprehend the content of what you
were replying to, short as it was. If you want respect, you don't reply in
that manner. So you didn't get it. If you don't like how I post, ignore
me.

Had I been treated a little more civilly, I might give a rat's *** what you
think. Predictably to type, you were the first to reduce this to an
explicit "**** off".

You are a child with a small mind and an over-inflated sense of self
importance. I fire people like you, I certainly don't lose sleep over what
you think.

Out.

Commentator wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Commentator wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> Commentator wrote:
>>>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>> Commentator wrote:
>>>>>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>>> Commentator wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Running a hosted site on Netfirms.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This php script
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <?php
>>>>>>>>> $fp = fsockopen("pop.XXXXXXXX.ca", 110, $errno, $errstr, 3);
>>>>>>>>> if (!$fp) {
>>>>>>>>> echo "$errstr ($errno)<br />\n";
>>>>>>>>> } else {
>>>>>>>>> echo "Connected ok <br />\n";
>>>>>>>>> fclose($fp);
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> returns
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Warning: fsockopen() [function.fsockopen]: unable to connect to
>>>>>>>>> pop.XXXXXXXX.ca:110 in
>>>>>>>>> mnt....................../www/XXXXXXXX.ca/forums/testsocket.php
>>>>>>>>> on line 2 Permission denied (13)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Using M2F with phpBB, cannot connect to the pop server.
>>>>>>>>> Everything else installed and works fine. M2F uses the pear
>>>>>>>>> packages for pop connections. I have tried changing the
>>>>>>>>> configuration from php 4 to php 5 and that made no difference.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do have the ability for a custom php.ini file. Would putting
>>>>>>>>> something in it resolve this connection error?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe you should try a php newsgroup?
>>>>>>> I have as well. It was suggested to me I try here too. I have
>>>>>>> no idea if this is really a PHP issue, or the way the server is
>>>>>>> configured.
>>>>>> Either way, a php newsgroup is a better place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And when posting to multiple newsgroups, you should cross-post,
>>>>>> not multi-post.
>>>>> Any other non-helpful comments before you finish?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Just that if that's going to be your attitude, **** off, slime.
>>> Exactly why I don't cross post. There is always someone who is more
>>> interested in telling you how to post rather than offering anything
>>> even remotely useful. Not surprisingly, this is exactly the
>>> response I expected from you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> You did get helpful suggestions - to try the right newsgroups for your
>> questions. And cross-posting is the appropriate way to go.
>>
>> But you're either too stupid to understand that, or too self-centered
>> to realize that usenet isn't your own private playground.
>>
>> Had you taken the advice to cross-post in the appropriate newsgroups,
>> you wouldn't have gotten anything. But like most self-centered
>> ***holes you never believe your actions are wrong. It's always got
>> to be someone else.
>
> Let me be perfectly clear.
>

You've been perfectly clear. You are a self-centered little boy with no
desire to follow established conventions.

> I am well conversant with Usenet convention. I am also well conversant with
> the fact that every newsgroup seems to have those who are more interested in
> complaining about posts rather than answering the questions contained
> therein. When you run into such people, threads get taken way off course
> and the underlying questions never get answered. Just like here.
>

So you think it's ok to violate usenet conventions just because *YOU*
don't care for them.

> This is why I do not cross post. Not to mention the fact that, if you took
> the time to actually comprehend what you read, you would have deduced that
> my post here was made *after* my posts / enquiries elsewhere. Unlike you, I
> do not have some auto-magical power to retroactively add a group to an
> earlier post.
>

Just like the spoiled brat you are. And I did read your posts. And you
still could have cross-posted - just add this newsgroup to the list of
other newsgroups the thread is in, for instance. But that must be too
much work for you.

> Since I have posted my question elsewhere, including to my hosting company,
> and not run into this same level of childishness, I expect I will get an
> answer from one of those sources (having already received several helpful
> suggestions). As already stated, I posted here only on the suggestion of
> someone trying to be helpful. Looks like I should not have, given the
> snippy, holier-than-thou attitude I have run into.
>

No holier-than-thou attitude. Rather an attempt to teach another
***hole the polite way to respond on usenet.

> Neither of your responses addressed the question.
>

Nope, rather I tried to steer you to another group which could help you
more. In case you haven't figured it out (obviously reading the group's
FAQs was too hard for you), this newsgroup is for the topic of
webmastering. It's not a catch-all where any topic about anything to do
with web pages should be discussed.

> Nonetheless, I answered the first response politely, explaining that I had
> posed the question elsewhere. The second response I received was nothing
> more than a "**** off and go away, I don't like your post" which was fired
> off to the group without any attempt to comprehend the content of what you
> were replying to, short as it was. If you want respect, you don't reply in
> that manner. So you didn't get it. If you don't like how I post, ignore
> me.
>

No, that was the third message - after you replied with "Any other
non-helpful comments before you finish?". I was nice before that. Who
has the "holier-than-thou" attitude"

> Had I been treated a little more civilly, I might give a rat's *** what you
> think. Predictably to type, you were the first to reduce this to an
> explicit "**** off".
>

Had you come in here with a little more civility you would have been
treated with civility.

> You are a child with a small mind and an over-inflated sense of self
> importance. I fire people like you, I certainly don't lose sleep over what
> you think.
>

Talking about yourself, I see. But then you guys never do recognize
what you're doing wrong, and then complain because we don't give
***holes help.

> Out.
>
>
THANK YOU! The group is much better without your kind.

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