On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:32:47 +0100, Paul B
<EMAIL REMOVED> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:34:52 -0700, "Murray R. Van Luyn."
><NOSPAM@NOSPAM> wrote:
>
>>Hi Paul B,
>
>Hi Murray,
>
>>Sorry, too busy trying to get inlinks at the moment. Don't worry, it's on my
>>(very long) list though. I'll have to dig out the vi editor and regular
>>expression notes to figure out how to rename all those files efficiently.
>>It's not really that big a job with the right tools.
>
>But it is the most important job. Otherwise you underscore pages will
>get PR and not your hyphenated url's.
>
>>Gee, I had no idea how hard it was going to be to get people to link to a
>>commercial site. The microcontroller homepage with all the free givaways was
>>easy to get linked to, but people go all quiet when I mention the commercial
>>gadget site.
>
>Thing is, you are in a small market as such.
>If I were you, I would get the URL's sorted, then work on the pages to
>make them look less spammy, and the rest should follow.
>
>I must admit, even if my sites were related to yours, I wouldn't want
>to link to you because the site does look spammy, and makes you wonder
>what other tricks you may be doing.
>NOTE: I am not saying you are, but 1st impressions count, and with a
>spammy homepage, then it will make others think that.
>
>>I even had to resort to buying some temporary links to get out of
>>supplemental hell, but it looks like Matt Cutts and Company at Google now
>>regard that as search engine spam. They're working on a paid-link reporting
>>mechanism to ban the sites involved.
>>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to...id-links/?1974
>
>No point in buying links.
>hth
>plh
>Paul
>
>>Regards,
>>Murray R. Van Luyn.

I reckon there'll be point in buying links for a good long time yet.
More of Google's hamfistedness ahead, I'll be bound...

BB
--

http://www.kruse.co.uk/internet-mark...l-business.htm
http://www.kruse.co.uk/google-mountain.htm
http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-tips.htm

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:49:31 GMT, "Denise" <EMAIL REMOVED>
wrote:

>"Big Bill" <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote in message
>news:EMAIL REMOVED.. .
>> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:34:52 -0700, "Murray R. Van Luyn."
>> <NOSPAM@NOSPAM> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Paul B,
>>>
>>>Sorry, too busy trying to get inlinks at the moment. Don't worry, it's on
>>>my
>>>(very long) list though. I'll have to dig out the vi editor and regular
>>>expression notes to figure out how to rename all those files efficiently.
>>>It's not really that big a job with the right tools.
>>
>> Change the underscores, then get the links.
>>
>>>Gee, I had no idea how hard it was going to be to get people to link to a
>>>commercial site. The microcontroller homepage with all the free givaways
>>>was
>>>easy to get linked to, but people go all quiet when I mention the
>>>commercial
>>>gadget site.
>>>
>>>I even had to resort to buying some temporary links to get out of
>>>supplemental hell, but it looks like Matt Cutts and Company at Google now
>>>regard that as search engine spam. They're working on a paid-link
>>>reporting
>>>mechanism to ban the sites involved.
>>>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to...id-links/?1974
>>
>> Not the smartest thing they ever did.
>>
>> BB
>> --
>
>They're just experimenting on an algorithm to better filter out paid links
>(those which are sold to increase PR). Who knows if they'll even ever
>implement it.
>
>Nothing was said about a ban; those paid links just wouldn't hold any weight
>as far as PR goes. Read Matt's further comments to that post; they are very
>enlightening.
>
>best,
>Denise

What did you find enlightening?

BB
--

http://www.kruse.co.uk/internet-mark...l-business.htm
http://www.kruse.co.uk/google-mountain.htm
http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-tips.htm

"Big Bill" <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote in message
news:EMAIL REMOVED...
<snip>

>>http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to...id-links/?1974
>
> Not the smartest thing they ever did.

I agree with you BB!

Stacey
--
SEO - Web Design
http://jezsta.com/
Article - Internet Marketing Wholesale Drop Shipping
http://jezsta.com/internet-marketing...opshipping.htm

On Apr 16, 9:34 pm, "Murray R. Van Luyn." <NOSPAM@NOSPAM> wrote:
> Hi Paul B,
>
> Sorry, too busy trying to get inlinks at the moment. Don't worry, it's on my
> (very long) list though. I'll have to dig out the vi editor and regular
> expression notes to figure out how to rename all those files efficiently.
> It's not really that big a job with the right tools.
>

rrepstr:
#!/usr/bin/perl -i

$to = pop @ARGV;
$from = pop @ARGV;

while(<>)
{
s/$from/$to/g;
print $_;
}


bash:
for file in `find . -name "*html"`
do
rrepstr $file "_" "-"
done

Hi Darnel,

Thank you so much for that. I went hunting for my vi notes last night, and
couldn't find the stuff needed to change m***es of filenames.

I don't remember the first thing about PERL. I'll have to did out the notes
on that one too. It's definitely the tool I need to replace the underscores
with tilde characters in html files, but how it works is still a bit of a
mystery.

Boy, is that going to save me a bunch of typing. Thank you so much Sandy. I
really appreciate it.

Regards,
Murray R. Van Luyn.
--
32°02'14.23"S 115°53'21.30"E
http://www.review-a-gadget.com/
http://members.iinet.net.au/~vanluynm/
"darnel" <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote in message
news:EMAIL REMOVED oups.com...
> On Apr 16, 9:34 pm, "Murray R. Van Luyn." <NOSPAM@NOSPAM> wrote:
>> Hi Paul B,
>>
>> Sorry, too busy trying to get inlinks at the moment. Don't worry, it's on
>> my
>> (very long) list though. I'll have to dig out the vi editor and regular
>> expression notes to figure out how to rename all those files efficiently.
>> It's not really that big a job with the right tools.
>>
>
> rrepstr:
> #!/usr/bin/perl -i
>
> $to = pop @ARGV;
> $from = pop @ARGV;
>
> while(<>)
> {
> s/$from/$to/g;
> print $_;
> }
>
>
> bash:
> for file in `find . -name "*html"`
> do
> rrepstr $file "_" "-"
> done
>
>

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:43:20 -0700, "Murray R. Van Luyn."
<NOSPAM@NOSPAM> wrote:

>Hi Darnel,
>
>Thank you so much for that. I went hunting for my vi notes last night, and
>couldn't find the stuff needed to change m***es of filenames.
>
>I don't remember the first thing about PERL. I'll have to did out the notes
>on that one too. It's definitely the tool I need to replace the underscores
>with tilde characters in html files,

hyphens, not tildes. - not ~

BB
--

http://www.kruse.co.uk/internet-mark...l-business.htm
http://www.kruse.co.uk/google-mountain.htm
http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-tips.htm

#!/usr/bin/perl -i

$to = pop @ARGV;
$from = pop @ARGV;

while(<>)
{
s/$from/$to/g;
print $_;
}

....be careful with this script. It writes back over top the files
it operates on. Backup your directory tree first:

tar -cvzf saved.tgz your_chosen_directory

or change the first line of the script.
Look at:
#!/usr/bin/perl -i .....the minus i switch (-i)
tells perl to write back over top the files it
operates on (instead of writing to stdout)
If you use -i.bak as the switch,
perl will save all the original copies as file.bak
before changing file.

Another way is to eliminate the -i switch entirely
Then the sh command becomes:

#!/bin/sh
for file in `find . -name "*\.html"`
do
rrepstr $file > /tmp/$file
cp /tmp/$file $file
done

now you have a copy of the original, unchanged file
in /tmp, and the changed file sitting where it was
originally

In another post I showed how to change underscores
to dashes in the file names, rather than the file contents.
That's important too. And trickier.

rrepstr will change any character to any other.
It doesn't have to be underscores and dashes.

Hi group,

Yes, dashes not tildes. I think that's what I meant :-)

I'd really like to see your post on changing characters in filenames too
darnel. That's one I'd really like to have in the toolbag. It's about time I
started working through some of these magical incantations, and learning a
little more about the type of tools available when not using MS.

That's that little character replacement job out of the way. Crumbs, about
20,000 characters to replace in both the filenames and internal references.
I sort of feel that I might not be doing the right thing as it places me
back at square 1 with all the search engines. From the number of people that
have made the same suggestion, and by the quality of the advice that they
all seem to offer in this group, I'm sure it's important and the right thing
to be doing. I really appreciate the technical advice and especially the
encouragement. It might not have gotten done otherwise, and I might have
been missing out on much improved SE results as a consequence.

Regards,
Murray R. Van Luyn.
--
32°02'14.23"S 115°53'21.30"E
http://www.review-a-gadget.com/
http://members.iinet.net.au/~vanluynm/
"darnel" <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote in message
news:EMAIL REMOVED ups.com...
> #!/usr/bin/perl -i
>
> $to = pop @ARGV;
> $from = pop @ARGV;
>
> while(<>)
> {
> s/$from/$to/g;
> print $_;
> }
>
> ...be careful with this script. It writes back over top the files
> it operates on. Backup your directory tree first:
>
> tar -cvzf saved.tgz your_chosen_directory
>
> or change the first line of the script.
> Look at:
> #!/usr/bin/perl -i .....the minus i switch (-i)
> tells perl to write back over top the files it
> operates on (instead of writing to stdout)
> If you use -i.bak as the switch,
> perl will save all the original copies as file.bak
> before changing file.
>
> Another way is to eliminate the -i switch entirely
> Then the sh command becomes:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> for file in `find . -name "*\.html"`
> do
> rrepstr $file > /tmp/$file
> cp /tmp/$file $file
> done
>
> now you have a copy of the original, unchanged file
> in /tmp, and the changed file sitting where it was
> originally
>
> In another post I showed how to change underscores
> to dashes in the file names, rather than the file contents.
> That's important too. And trickier.
>
> rrepstr will change any character to any other.
> It doesn't have to be underscores and dashes.
>
>
>

On Apr 19, 5:20 pm, "Murray R. Van Luyn." <NOSPAM@NOSPAM> wrote:
> I'd really like to see your post on changing characters in filenames too

What if you want to change directory names?
What if you want to change file names?



Dirs:
#!/bin/bash
{
find $1 -depth -name '*_*' -type d -print |
sed 's/./\\&/g' |
awk -F/ -vOFS=/ '
{
old=$0
gsub(/_/, "-", $NF)
new=$0
system("<&3 mv -i -- " old " " new)
}'

} 3<&0

Files:
....use the same script, but change -type d to -type f

On Apr 19, 10:53 am, darnel <Sandy.Pittendr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 19, 5:20 pm, "Murray R. Van Luyn." <NOSPAM@NOSPAM> wrote:
>
> > I'd really like to see your post on changing characters in filenames too
>
> What if you want to change directory names?
> What if you want to change file names?
>
> Dirs:
> #!/bin/bash
> {
> find $1 -depth -name '*_*' -type d -print |
> sed 's/./\\&/g' |
> awk -F/ -vOFS=/ '
> {
> old=$0
> gsub(/_/, "-", $NF)
> new=$0
> system("<&3 mv -i -- " old " " new)
> }'
>
> } 3<&0
>
> Files:
> ...use the same script, but change -type d to -type f

So, if you saved the above script as ch_dirs and copied it
to some server side directory, named perhaps /srv/www/htdocs/testing
and if testing had a nested directory structure containing files of
any kind,
notice the script takes a dollar sign $1 parameter, which is the
starting
point directory to operate over. Lets say directory test has a
subdirectory
named stuff

do the following:
backup your stuff directory, so can revert backwards if you
don't like what happens. Then:

ch_dirs stuff <enter>
....and shiver me timbers, away it goes