I want to come back, but there is so much spam here. Virtually every OP comes
from Google Groups... :-(

On May 28, 12:10 am, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com>
wrote:
> I want to come back, but there is so much spam here. Virtually every OP comes
> from Google Groups... :-(

Hey Roy

Thanks for stepping in.

There are only two alternatives that I can see :

A - Do like other Usenet groups and just let it decay. With rotting
comes less participation and more spammers seeing the opening. Spammed
out groups lose their authoritativeness.

B - Ignore (and fight) the bastards as much as possible. Starting more
relevant topics can saturate the spam a little bit so as to make the
group appear to be less spammed out.


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__/ [ canadafred ] on Monday 28 May 2007 08:40 \__

> On May 28, 12:10 am, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com>
> wrote:
>> I want to come back, but there is so much spam here. Virtually every OP
>> comes from Google Groups... :-(
>
> Hey Roy
>
> Thanks for stepping in.
>
> There are only two alternatives that I can see :
>
> A - Do like other Usenet groups and just let it decay. With rotting
> comes less participation and more spammers seeing the opening. Spammed
> out groups lose their authoritativeness.
>
> B - Ignore (and fight) the bastards as much as possible. Starting more
> relevant topics can saturate the spam a little bit so as to make the
> group appear to be less spammed out.

Thanks. A lot seems to have changed since I was last here. The volume of
posts has gone down, based on what I have seen in the weekly stats (I still
have them automatically generated every Tuesday and they get posted to my
desktop. Do you want me to resume posting these by the way?)... a few people
seem to have walked away... Dave ended up in Netscape.com not so long ago...
I see Cat is still visiting, as does yourself... :-)

I am sick of SPAM and with lack of participation, the signal-to-noise ratio
goes down. With that, mirrors become obsolete as well and so does
readership. I have just realised that for the past 2 months SPAM has been
quietly accumulating in my PHP-Nuke subsites... no wonder Google got
upset... with thousands of links to adult sites... no rel="nofollow"... took
me an hour just to delete them at database level... which left cruft and
semi-broken CMSs. Just to think it's people like Dave who are/were doing
that sort of damage. Anyway, let's see how it goes. AISE is like family. :-)

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Roy Schestowitz <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote:

>__/ [ canadafred ] on Monday 28 May 2007 08:40 \__
>
>> On May 28, 12:10 am, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I want to come back, but there is so much spam here. Virtually every OP
>>> comes from Google Groups... :-(
>>
>> Hey Roy
>>
>> Thanks for stepping in.
>>
>> There are only two alternatives that I can see :
>>
>> A - Do like other Usenet groups and just let it decay. With rotting
>> comes less participation and more spammers seeing the opening. Spammed
>> out groups lose their authoritativeness.
>>
>> B - Ignore (and fight) the bastards as much as possible. Starting more
>> relevant topics can saturate the spam a little bit so as to make the
>> group appear to be less spammed out.
>
>Thanks. A lot seems to have changed since I was last here. The volume of
>posts has gone down, based on what I have seen in the weekly stats (I still
>have them automatically generated every Tuesday and they get posted to my
>desktop. Do you want me to resume posting these by the way?)... a few people
>seem to have walked away... Dave ended up in Netscape.com not so long ago...
>I see Cat is still visiting, as does yourself... :-)
>
>I am sick of SPAM and with lack of participation, the signal-to-noise ratio
>goes down. With that, mirrors become obsolete as well and so does
>readership. I have just realised that for the past 2 months SPAM has been
>quietly accumulating in my PHP-Nuke subsites... no wonder Google got
>upset... with thousands of links to adult sites... no rel="nofollow"... took
>me an hour just to delete them at database level... which left cruft and
>semi-broken CMSs. Just to think it's people like Dave who are/were doing
>that sort of damage. Anyway, let's see how it goes. AISE is like family. :-)

Newsgroups cycle, it seems to be part of the deal. I stopped posting
here quite a while ago, there were enough dogmatic people who know
everything to make it kind of a pita to attempt contributing anything.
I still download the headers, read the occasional interesting thread.
There may be lots of lurkers.

Spam seems to happen unless it is actively discouraged. In some of
the groups I participate in, anything even resembling spam is met with
ridicule and obscene invective.

Google groups. The topic makes me cringe. For that matter the topic
"google" makes me cringe. It started out so good, and now it's filled
with sponsored links, making it almost useless if you want to actually
find something on the web. Now any puketard who can find Google
groups thinks it's a website, has no concept of what usenet is, and
wants it to be their way; well it ain't booger king, it's usenet.

Whatever. I don't need AISE, it's optional. If there's active
discussion that is interesting, apparently I'll participate. If it's
just spam'n'crap, why bother.

AISE will continue to cycle for as long as it exists, it's the nature
of the usenet group. If you want it to go in some direction, post
stuff in that direction and maybe it'll go there.

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On Mon, 28 May 2007 08:10:10 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<EMAIL REMOVED> wrote:

>I want to come back, but there is so much spam here. Virtually every OP comes
>from Google Groups... :-(

We've had a hell of a lot of folk looking for you. None of them happy.

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> Do you want me to resume posting these by the way

I thought that was cool when you were doing that. It was kinda' neat
to see participation data in such a way. Of course there are other
ways of getting this data but not as concisely layed-out.

Personally, I come and go now depending on my mental status mostly. I
seem to need more fortitude to stick around for long periods of time.
I would imagine that there are many SEOs like me that drift in and out
because A.I.S.E. is like an old, safe home to many of us who have
weathered the storms of search engine optimization trends and thew
various SEO characters that we encounter.


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__/ [ Big Bill ] on Monday 28 May 2007 10:53 \__

> On Mon, 28 May 2007 08:10:10 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
> <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote:
>
>>I want to come back, but there is so much spam here. Virtually every OP
>>comes from Google Groups... :-(
>
> We've had a hell of a lot of folk looking for you. None of them happy.

:-(

Oww... what did they say? Some of the people out there resist disrutpive
technology with p***ion. Some do this for their wallet (can't be sure with
companies that hand out Vista laptops to bloggers)...

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On Mon, 28 May 2007 12:36:25 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<EMAIL REMOVED> wrote:

>__/ [ Big Bill ] on Monday 28 May 2007 10:53 \__
>
>> On Mon, 28 May 2007 08:10:10 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
>> <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote:
>>
>>>I want to come back, but there is so much spam here. Virtually every OP
>>>comes from Google Groups... :-(
>>
>> We've had a hell of a lot of folk looking for you. None of them happy.
>
>:-(
>
>Oww... what did they say?

Variously that they were you and that the you that they weren't was
some kind of Linux evangalista. Of course, we denied this outright...

> Some of the people out there resist disrutpive
>technology with p***ion. Some do this for their wallet (can't be sure with
>companies that hand out Vista laptops to bloggers)...

It seemed like you'd got on the wrong side of the nutso packs that
flock in places like Digg.

BB
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__/ [ Big Bill ] on Monday 28 May 2007 14:08 \__

> On Mon, 28 May 2007 12:36:25 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
> <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote:
>
>>__/ [ Big Bill ] on Monday 28 May 2007 10:53 \__
>>
>>> On Mon, 28 May 2007 08:10:10 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
>>> <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I want to come back, but there is so much spam here. Virtually every OP
>>>>comes from Google Groups... :-(
>>>
>>> We've had a hell of a lot of folk looking for you. None of them happy.
>>
>>:-(
>>
>>Oww... what did they say?
>
> Variously that they were you and that the you that they weren't was
> some kind of Linux evangalista. Of course, we denied this outright...


Free software, not Linux. It's more about digital freedom, which opposes what
becomes digital slavery. The same goes for SEO (Google love, privacy, etc).


>> Some of the people out there resist disrutpive
>>technology with p***ion. Some do this for their wallet (can't be sure with
>>companies that hand out Vista laptops to bloggers)...
>
> It seemed like you'd got on the wrong side of the nutso packs that
> flock in places like Digg.


Haha. I found comfort in a nuthouse. :-) :-)

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On 28 May 2007 03:08:29 -0700, canadafred <EMAIL REMOVED>
wrote:

>A.I.S.E. is like an old, safe home to many of us who have
>weathered the storms of search engine optimization trends and thew
>various SEO characters that we encounter.

But you're still here