On May 23, 3:35 pm, "Denise" <dion...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Logician" <s...@logicians.com> wrote in message
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> > On May 23, 3:04 pm, "Denise" <dion...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> "Logician" <s...@logicians.com> wrote in message
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> >> >I started link building for my new site (sayworth.co.uk) and this is a
> >> > lot of hard work!
>
> >> > I have never bothered to link build before. But I am making more
> >> > effort with Sayworth as it is forum/advice based.
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> >> > Is there a quicker way to get links? I know some people have done this
> >> > type of work really quickly. What takes the time is finding the sites,
> >> > and then convincing them to link to you without paying them.
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> >> I should add that I'd guess that folks who can do this "really quickly"
> >> without using directories have previously built of lists of good contacts
> >> in
> >> their subject area who will likely be willing link partners. And that
> >> takes
> >> time.
>
> >> If you're starting from scratch (without such contacts), submitting to
> >> some
> >> good directories will jump start the process, but it's gonna take time &
> >> effort to get solid links from relevant non-directory sites.
>
> >> cheers ~
> >> Denise
>
> > I was thinking of Alex Tew who is a marketing genius. He was a
> > millionaire at 21 (self made) and now lives in a London penthouse with
> > a second home in the country. He got his latest site indexed in
> > hundreds of thousands of websites within weeks.
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> > It is hard work finding the sites for links! I have never worked so
> > hard. I have to explain all the time what I am doing, why, what the
> > site will look like later.
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> Not sure what you mean by "indexed in hundreds of thousands of websites" -
> you mean he got hundreds of thousands of links? Probably paid for them, no
> magic in that.
>
> Yes, it is hard work finding the sites to ask for links. And even harder to
> get them to actually link to you, as most webmasters just delete mails from
> strangers who ask for links.
>
> If you are getting resistance from folks because your site doesn't look like
> much, listen to them. Make your site look great & add lots of content before
> you ask for a link - folks are much more likely to link to you if your site
> seems to be an excellent resource, and well designed. Currently there is
> very little on your site (no posts in the forum, even) to compel folks to
> link to it. If you build it up a bit first, getting links will be easier.
>
> As Scott pointed out, the best links come from folks who just want to link
> to your excellent content. But that happens slowly.
>
> cheers ~
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My computer crashed - hence 3 posts.
Tew invented pixelotto which has 121,000 google references. He did
that in a few weeks. He also has the MDHP brand which doubtless is
also in the hundreds of thousands of references.

I added a few more pages explaining about the risks of web trade, eg
retention of title. eg http://www.sayworth.co.uk/delivery.html You may
not know that when a web company goes bust the goods you purchased may
not be yours. Be wary of cheap companies.

"Logician" <EMAIL REMOVED> wrote in message
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> On May 23, 3:35 pm, "Denise" <dion...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Logician" <s...@logicians.com> wrote in message
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>> news:EMAIL REMOVED oups.com...
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>> > On May 23, 3:04 pm, "Denise" <dion...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "Logician" <s...@logicians.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:EMAIL REMOVED roups.com...
>>
>> >> >I started link building for my new site (sayworth.co.uk) and this is
>> >> >a
>> >> > lot of hard work!
>>
>> >> > I have never bothered to link build before. But I am making more
>> >> > effort with Sayworth as it is forum/advice based.
>>
>> >> > Is there a quicker way to get links? I know some people have done
>> >> > this
>> >> > type of work really quickly. What takes the time is finding the
>> >> > sites,
>> >> > and then convincing them to link to you without paying them.
>>
>> >> I should add that I'd guess that folks who can do this "really
>> >> quickly"
>> >> without using directories have previously built of lists of good
>> >> contacts
>> >> in
>> >> their subject area who will likely be willing link partners. And that
>> >> takes
>> >> time.
>>
>> >> If you're starting from scratch (without such contacts), submitting to
>> >> some
>> >> good directories will jump start the process, but it's gonna take time
>> >> &
>> >> effort to get solid links from relevant non-directory sites.
>>
>> >> cheers ~
>> >> Denise
>>
>> > I was thinking of Alex Tew who is a marketing genius. He was a
>> > millionaire at 21 (self made) and now lives in a London penthouse with
>> > a second home in the country. He got his latest site indexed in
>> > hundreds of thousands of websites within weeks.
>>
>> > It is hard work finding the sites for links! I have never worked so
>> > hard. I have to explain all the time what I am doing, why, what the
>> > site will look like later.
>>
>> Not sure what you mean by "indexed in hundreds of thousands of
>> websites" -
>> you mean he got hundreds of thousands of links? Probably paid for them,
>> no
>> magic in that.
>>
>> Yes, it is hard work finding the sites to ask for links. And even harder
>> to
>> get them to actually link to you, as most webmasters just delete mails
>> from
>> strangers who ask for links.
>>
>> If you are getting resistance from folks because your site doesn't look
>> like
>> much, listen to them. Make your site look great & add lots of content
>> before
>> you ask for a link - folks are much more likely to link to you if your
>> site
>> seems to be an excellent resource, and well designed. Currently there is
>> very little on your site (no posts in the forum, even) to compel folks to
>> link to it. If you build it up a bit first, getting links will be easier.
>>
>> As Scott pointed out, the best links come from folks who just want to
>> link
>> to your excellent content. But that happens slowly.
>>
>> cheers ~
>> Denise- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
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> My computer crashed - hence 3 posts.
> Tew invented pixelotto which has 121,000 google references. He did
> that in a few weeks. He also has the MDHP brand which doubtless is
> also in the hundreds of thousands of references.

So?
If that inspires you, then create a site that gets people talking. Better
yet, give 'em information they can't find elsewhere.

(His site seems pretty useless, though - for both visitors & advertisers. I
wouldn't hold it up as a model for anything.)

By the way, when I searched "pixelotto" on Google just now it turned up way
fewer than 121000 results. And, the site has been online way longer than "a
few weeks."

>
> I added a few more pages explaining about the risks of web trade, eg
> retention of title. eg http://www.sayworth.co.uk/delivery.html You may
> not know that when a web company goes bust the goods you purchased may
> not be yours. Be wary of cheap companies.

Adding quality content is certainly a good start. Great.

best,
Denise